User:Flamephoenix/Archives1

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Winx Club Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Winx Club 3D:Magic Adventure page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Sorreltail18 (Talk) 17:35, June 22, 2010 welcome to winx club wiki, thank you so much for editing here! ♫sing-a-song of sorrel!♫ I want a hug!!! FREE HUGS!!! 18:36, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, nice job on the Magic Adventure page. Roxy13 - Dad, I'm a fairy! 21:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much to Sorreltail18 and to Roxy13

Flamephoenix 11:45, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not able to embed the new Winx Club movie trailer available on YouTube on the Magic Adventure, so I just added the link to the Magic Adventure page. If anyone can embed it, i'd be very grateful to them. P.S.: From the song in the trailer, I think that the name of the movie is gonna be "Magical Adventure", not "Magic Adventure".

Thanks for letting us know. We'll take care of it right away. Magical Adventure? I don't speak Italian, so I wouldn't know. I'll leave a message on the talk page, see what others think. Roxy13 - Dad, I'm a fairy! 13:10, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

The song in the trailer is in English, not in Italian and it goes on each time with "Just like a Magical Adventure..."

Here are some pieces of the song:

"Now you're ready for this mission,

... dimension,

And live your life as a Magical Adventure,

Baby you can be on your own, so get up from the seat you're on now, it's hour for you, it's a real world of wonder

Renaming pages
To rename pages, just click on the move button on the top of the page, then type in the new title. Roxy13 - Dad, I'm a fairy! 20:53, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Roxy13.

Origin of the Inhabitants of the Magic Dimension
Hey! from my point of view most of the populations can be decended from earth people for this reason. When the Black Circle started hunting fairies, which happened centuries before the series, some if not most of them escaped from earth and went to different worlds in the magic dimention. does that make sense? SkyGuy - Let's chat! 15:40, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I understand what you mean, but according to the series itself the civilisation of the Magical Dimension is said to be older than Earth's. If it has not been mentioned in the series that inhabitants of the Magical Dimension descend from Earthlings, then better not put it here. Moreover, if the populations of the Magic Dimension were most descended from people of Earth, the Wizards would have attacked the rest of the Magic Dimension, as they need all Earth's magic to be imprisoned within their Black Circle to conquer it. This would also imply the descendants of people from Earth. Therefore they would have attacked all the realms. Moreover, at the beginning of season 4 the Black Circle rejected Bloom when the Wizards tried to imprison her in it. If she had even one ancestor from Earth this wouldn't have happened. Also, in the first season, when Faragonda was telling Bloom the story of the Great Dragon, she told her that the Great Dragon created many worlds, this means the planets and their inhabitants. Also, it was stated that when the Great Dragon disappeared, its power has since been handed down by the members of the royal family of Domino, which means that there has been inhabitants on Domino since near the beginning of the Magic Dimension, at a time where probably dinosaurs still existed on Earth.Flamephoenix 16:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

your right bloom wasnt a decended from earth, however. family line relations cease after a few generations, so as for the rest of the magic demention, the black circle might not have known some fairies escaped, or even knew the rest of the magic dimention existed. those decended from earth would no longer have relations to it, having produced such a long line of offspring, plus the family names of some of the escaped fairies would have become extinct. and one last thing. in my opinion, the magic dimention is so advanced because of two things. none of the worlds are divided like earth is, therefore they could focus on progress and become so advanced, and the fact that they use magic to power there machines is another reason they are advanced. finally if earth was created at the same time as the rest of the realms, it must have taken about the same amount of time as humans for fairies to evolve. dinosaurs were long extinct by the time civiliation in the magic dimention started. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 16:43, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

There are loopholes in your theory (even if I really like it very much) because:

1. If the Wizards ignored the magic dimension's existence, how did they find Bloom at Alfea, which is located at Magix, at the heart of the magic dimension?

2. According to Morgana, in the episode 24 of the fourth season, when she is talking to Roxy before Ogron is supposed to surrender the Black Circle to her, Tir Nan Og was, before the arrival of the Wizards and the start of the Fairy Hunt, somewhat like halfway between the magic dimension and non-magical Earth, and the Earth fairies and magical creatures from other realms would interact there... so if the people of the magic dimension were descended from refugees from the great fairy hunt, how is it that there were already realms in the magic dimension?

3. According to Faragonda, in episode 6 of the first season, most of the realms of the magic dimension were created by the Great Dragon at the beginning of the Universe, which is dated by scientists of our, real world to be about 14 billion years ago, while Earth formed itself about 4.5 billion years ago. Therefore, placing the timeline of Earth on that of the magic dimension, civilisation would have started there about 9.5 billion years ago, before our Solar System itself was formed...

4. In the same episode, it is said that immediately after creating the Universe, the Great Dragon also created all the life found in the magic dimension. It then went to rest on Domino and since then the royal heirs of that planet have been the Guardians of the Dragon Fire, which means that the royal line existed since the beginning of the Universe and planet Earth appeared way much after the beginning of the Universe...

5. The Black Circle doesn't detect people with blood relations from Earth, but magic from Earth, which is handed down for ever across generations, just like the Dragon Fire has been handed down through the royal family of Domino since the beginning of the Universe. Therefore even if the blood relations ceased, the magic from Earth would still have been existing in the magic dimension, and the Black Circle would have led the Wizards to that very source since it s exact purpose is to sense, seek and capture Earth fairies' magic, anywhere in the Universe. And as Morgana herself said that before the Fairy Hunt began Tir Nan Og had relations with Magix, the Wizards couldn't possibly have been unaware of the existance of the magic dimension and even if fairies escaped there, Ogron and his henchmen would have found them...

6. The Great Fairy Hunt is said to have begun at the beginning of the Middle Ages in the series by Faragonda, and even in real historic records its noted at that time that fairies ceased to be revered and remained only in children's tales, while Faragonda herself states that most of the magical realms existed since thousands of years... that doesn't fit... Even with magic, it would still take a lot of time for war refugees to begin a new civilisation out of nothing. 1500 years (from the beginning of the Middle Ages around AD 476, when the fairy hunt is said to have started, till now) wouldn't suffice for a few refugees to populate a whole universe.

7.On Earth since always technological advance has been made for warfare uses, from the war-axes of cavemen and the protective mud houses of ancient people till the great discoveries and inventions at the beginning of the 20th century, it is only since recently that technological advance is used for the sake of science and leisure. So, if the realms have never been divided, it would then have taken a lot of time for such technological advance, since there would have been no need for it and they would have advanced very slowly.

8. Also, at the very beginning of the 4th season, Ogron himself, at Alfea (therefore in the Magic Dimension) said that only one fairy (i.e. Roxy) remained for the power of the Wizards of the Black Circle to be complete and for them to be able to conquer Earth. If even one fairy had escaped to the magic dimension centuries before, they would not have attained the near-ultimate power they had at the season's beginning so that they would only need to capture one more fairy, as all the magical essence of Earth had to be imprisoned within the Black Circle to allow the Wizards to gain such power. According to the series, magic is handed down generations (take Bloom's Dragon Fire for example) and if fairies from Earth escaped, the power of the Wizards would never have been almost complete.

9. It is stated in the series itself (RAI continuity) that the civilisation of the magic dimension's realms are older than Earth's civilisations, as well as being more advanced

10. Also, that inhabitants of magical realms can be descended from Earth people has neither been stated, nor hinted in the series, and as such this claim remains non-canon so long as it is not clearly stated in the series or on the Winx Club Official Site.

11. At the time of the fairy hunt, in the middle ages, most of the countries of modern times didn't exist...

Hope you don't mind, but I don't see your theory fitting, even if it seems a very interesting and appealing one to me. I can't see the logic behind. I you explain further, maybe you could convince me, as this theory also occured to me but I saw way too much loopholes for it to hold. Maybe instead of putting this information about the populations on the planets' pages, you could place them on their talk pages...Flamephoenix 20:55, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Fine then! But in case u are not aware, the series isn't over yet. more seasons are being produced, so more of what happened in the past might be explained and shown. nevertheless the nationalitiy things will stay where they are for the time being, I say so as an administriator. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 21:06, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

And another thing. I never said that refugees occupied the "entire" magic dimention. the sociaty of a few planets have never even been explained or shown. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 21:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Finally, the nationalities are apparently official because this user (LawerenceSmit) managed to find it out. End of discussion, End of Story. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 21:16, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, then, I just found loopholes in that theory... But you're right, lets end that matter and wait for the series to explain all that needs to be explained... I hope you didn't mind. And as you said: the series isn't over yet and more things maybe or surely will be explained, as such whatever will have to be explained will be... and we all hope that Winx Club will last very for a very long time to come and give us more moments of wonder, magic and action... Winx Club Rocks! Winx Club Rules! (Winx Club will apparently last at least till 2014... check it here if you understand french:Winx Magic on Kazeo )Flamephoenix 21:29, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Two last things:

1. I'd like to know from where this user got all this info, because apparently he has been blocked for posting this on the Wikia...

2. I'm a science student and that's one of many reasons why I was especially sceptical about your theory, because, in science classes we are taught that, on whatever planet where life is possible, there are different climates existing, extremely cold, temperate, tropical, and hot among others, and therefore all living beings adapt to their environments, even humans, thats why there is such a variety in the physical appearance of people on Earth... even the realms of the magic dimension must surely be having such variety in people's features... That's it, end of the matter! Hope we don't argue on that matter anymore...

Wow!
That's surprising! In one day my talk page became so long! I'd never have expected it... P.S.: How d'you open a talkbox?

I'm not really sure i'm understanding... I mean how do you do to choose the settings for a talkbox, and how d'you place one on someone's talk page?

I got it, what you're saying... I'm using the New Wikia Skins...

I thought you and i agreed to leave it be untill the rest of the series is shown. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 18:06, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we agreed to leave it, but its better to remove these statements so long as nothing is hinted towards that in the series. I also have many theories about things in the series, but only when events in the series did clearly hint towards these that I placed one or two of these on the wikia (some that I did not put are, for example, why is Daphne a nymph, while her sister is only a fairy? Or another one is that Bloom and Stella could possibly have family relations as members of royal families of different kingdoms often marry each other, thats why the Trix went after Stella's ring when they thought that everyone from the royal family Domino died - please, don't put these in any article, I will decide whether or not to put these judging upon what is featured or not in the series or on the site). I simply wish that you remove these edits atleast till we don't learn more about this. We leave it, but you stop udoing my edits, please.Flamephoenix 18:18, November 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1. you will not decide anything, you are not and Admin.
 * 2. if that how you feel fine. but dont remove them unless i give you the green light.
 * 3. Nationalities have nothing to do with race.
 * SkyGuy - Let's chat! 18:24, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

finally, respond on "my" talk page, not your own. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 18:26, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I asked because
I wanna use colour red, with Brandon as character. What d'you mean by signature?Flamephoenix 18:53, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

fine then remove them, but dont touch Roxy, she is from earth. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 18:48, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm also very friendly. Ok, I'll tell you if I need help.Flamephoenix 20:17, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok... Its usually what happens when I first meet someone who'll become a good friend of mine, either an argument or we immediately start behaving as if we were old friends...Flamephoenix 20:17, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, anyway...Flamephoenix 20:17, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Here you go!
Its great! Thanks a lot!--Flamephoenix 00:47, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

I've already read it...--Flamephoenix 16:29, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Charmed Wiki
Hello I am Executive Manager on The Charmed Wiki. Are you a user? -- 18:22, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Not of Charmed Wiki, only of Winx Club Wikia. Why?Flamephoenix 18:35, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Err
Ok, thanks!--Flamephoenix 20:41, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Fine, thanks
Um, Flamephoenix. No offense to your last edit to Wizards of the Black Circle, but you made it a bit, how do i put this. Over detailed. you're not supposed to put ever single detail from a season in articles. thats called making spoilers. Get my drift? SkyGuy - Let's chat! 22:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I saw what you asked Roxy13, and i'm afraid your suggestion dosn't make any sense. further more, the comic series is totally unrelated to the TV continuity, so it makes no sense to make extra pages for the winx characters. one more thing. just so you know, the english comics are the ones that have been tranalated. there are still plenty more that havent. and they streatch into the season 4 setting. SkyGuy - Let's chat! 21:24, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Hi there! I've been wishing in advance everyone on the Winx Club Wikia I've become friends with since I first joined the Winx Club Wiki! So... Have a Winx Mery Christmas! -- FlamePhoenix -- Rock The Universe! 20:22, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

*sob*

 * wipes tear from eye* That's so sweet...

I do care for people, but not meanies. Not fakies. Not popularity-grubbing meanie-weanies! *starts giggling*-- BloomPurple11 - Fire Arrow 21:57, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

LOL. Gotta go!-- BloomPurple11 - Fire Arrow 22:10, December 19, 2010 (UTC)