User blog comment:KillRoy231/Darkar and Duman/@comment-3346122-20150201225344/@comment-26973802-20150204051543

I'm old-fashioned with villains too but I'm still satisfied that Ogron, Anagan, and Gantlos most likely fell to their deaths. I mean, there is no way they survived that fall. They probably shattered to pieces when they hit the bottom of that crevice like that bird that got frozen by the snake in the Season 3 premier. Yes, they were frozen by the Convergence, but then they fell. Ogron, Anagan, and Gantlos are dead, just killed in a different way than Darkar, Valtor, and Duman.

That's why I count Season 5 (which doesn't exist in the RAI version, which I am loyal to), and not Season 4, as the point in which Winx Club departed from the classic ending. (Sure, Season 1 didn't do it either, but it began with Darkar in Season 2 and ended with the fairy hunters in Season 4)

And I have the suspicion that the two of us are the only ones who want them dead seeing everyone else's love for villains making them want them to survive, or in some cases, win.