@Danios15 I failed to see which part I mentioned fanon? I by far only mentioned big fanblogs provided news and stuffs. Many of them provided oversea or non-English and non-Italian materials (like almost no one knows about something called "Trendix" until a French fanblog mentioned it and it clearly is canon, not made-up)

I don't just cite that episode. I also remember the time Stella tried various dresses for her ball. Bloom and Chimera did so as well because they were all in the same store. They're fairies but it does not mean that just "fairies" can use magic for changing the dresses. There are citizens who are not fairies and they can do the same (otherwise the store wouldn't have lasted that long).

Noting about magic, I do not really think if only fairies and magical beings can use magic there, while mere humans can only inherit the magic (via devices, apps and such). Tecna managed to get the Spectrographic Localizer work as how she wanted (make the witches no longer invisible and intangible) but it's clear that she did not create it from craft. More or less it's from her father - a mere human (?) - but then it's possible that he did not create it from craft either.

While nothing (found at the moment) solidly cite Luna is a fairy, let's not count her as a fairy, then she's a human. It's clear that she could move the sun of Solaria, like showed on season 5. So again, it's an app or device or something to do so?

Again, it's stated in early seasons that magic is everywhere in the magical realm, and people there already get used to the existence of magic, pretty much us here with the Internet.

Last thing, if mere humans on magical world cannot use magic, but just use magical what-already-had, then just ignore Bloom's family case since her mother is confirmed a fairy. Tecna's parents are normal people, and so do Musa's. Then non-magical parents give birth to magical children?

About the Trix, Rainbow has personally re-branded the show as 2: 3 first season, and the rest. So with story of Icy, there's nothing to debate...

@Aphrodite Sweetheart 'from fans for fans' generally defines it, and I digged through them years ago, but there were mainly made-up stories, fan-art, gossip, or lots of blocked pictures(also, Unadinoi was dead at the time...)... And I said this especially for that fanon STILL is having its way to this place, as seen with the Magical Adventure or with Faragonda....(and wcd would be a major offender...) Trendix does have a formal source - books - which things like Starlix or any "fan-forms" don't.

Yes, I've tried to refer to this as well: that was clearly stated to be just a magical device, but can we really have a question like that about a huge star/ball of flaming gas? (It's also reminded me about the library of Alfea: even an unexperienced fairy can use it without any exertion of magic - just like web searchers overally will do "their best" to find something even if one's request is basically gibberish - thogh most of such applications/devices tend to get overheated/"overworked" hilariously easily)

Yes, disappointingly Tecna's status as a gadgeeter genius was yet to come/her abilities have got some limits(just like Flora's knowledge of plants or anyone's knowledgeability of their fields..)...Just the problem is rarely ever we can see anyone other than THE Winx and villains showcasing some magic or being good about it, like Faragonda's enchantix or Timmy with a "levitating" camera, save for Eldora with her "enchantix"/Mythix or the bonded ones, leading us to question if mermaids/tritons and Specialists from The Winx Club can use magic or just magical weapons..

Yes, as both of us had repeatedly noted..but I also noted, this may be a case called by TvTropes 'early installment weirdness', and that's not even to ask if Nick did anything about this detail...

Hm, did she? This would be nice, because apart from the M1, she was just a warrior on par with Oritel.. The other parents are "the guess game", really...

Thank you for info. Although I do question things I haven't checked for myself, I do see your knowledgeability, and will check out on the trix myself. Thank you once more.

@Danios15 Indeed they're still fanblogs that why we all need to check for sources and such before putting anything to the label "canon" but at least we still have a clue to search on. Yet as I said before, so far, I've found nothing at the moment with 2 sites dead.

About Marion, when Oritel released her from his sword (first movie), he said "My fairy". She can be seen using magic to change Bloom's princess dress to a horse riding suit on second movie.

I agree about the part that the magical ability of other (magical) beings is something debatable, and I wished Rainbow could have done better with the book Winx Club. Guida al mondo magico (such as why old transformations return with new look -- yes of course it's profitable but in-universe explanation is unknown). Still, with both Luna (no proof stated a fairy) and Roy (a Specialist with no note of being wizards or something) can use magic, I'm still on the side that humans on Magix can use magic, but just to an extend, not like fairies, witches, wizards, etc -- aka ones who are academically or professionally trained in using magic.

And thanks for this valuable discussion. It's clear that we both learnt something.

@Aphrodite Sweetheart Let me start from the most importnat: thank you for all the info; and I was browsing through the Powerlisting Wikia looking up 'Winx', when, suddenly, I got scrolled down to Luna from the Fate under Light Powers - are they the same person??

Glad to know that Marion's magic powers [like entering the Sword] was not just a Movie-exclusive one-timer, and I underestand your determination, and will respect the decision to leave Luna like this, but I'm still thinking using a SUN, sending it to another Galaxy is quite a telling hint . [Funny enough, I remember the Winxverse even had a plant that can do one of the "tricks" Fairies have some problem with..teleportation - almost teleport-spamming like Lockette in Her PopPixie! The WoW2's got also those never-identified, nightmarish worm-like monsters ]

This thing about Transformations; I heard Sirenix actually has got its explanation in the 8th Season, and I wouldn't really count Aisha's and Bloom's Enchantixes - they were just up to to date - the odd case is with Daphne(this is even omiting Politea, though..), but I'm not surprised she apparently abandoned her "captive form"... We can as well be assessing this to the same thing that apparenly changed her age... If you would be interested in my theory, I long suspect a lot about Sirenix changed after it got cursed.. to protect/discourage future Sirenix Fairies, and turning Higher Fairy Forms into a taboo/secret...(and since that was the only Form one could opt for, since requirements for the others stood next to impossible, specially with no Dragon Flame...) Another thing is that every Fairy Form is apparently subconsciously shaped by a mind and looks of its bearer, which has been especially evidenced by Roxy's hybrid Believix-like [although I like to have this on account of my another theory of 'Earthian anomalies', too] Form, compared to the Alfean one, to Diaspro's one, Linphean ones, or the Forms of Eraklyonian students/pupils - though differing in power because of trainings/storing and accumulating of the magical energy, they are apparently pretty much the same Transformation and level...(if Miele's Theme of transformation shall be any clue...) That's why I'm sure a Fairy is never unhappy/disappointed with their new magical look/outfit and wings. By the same "virtue", 'Witch Forms' would have the same feature, of course...

I don't mean to butt in on your convo so feel free to ignore this but I actually wrote a wiki blog post on this (fairy forms) a few years ago.

@Anon3610 I'm sorry, but this case is only 2 months-old, and I rarely ever was searching the forums here..# One of the only pieces I did not come up myself is about Believix - that was probably your comment on YouTube, and I won't deny you any rights to coming up withs first, promise! If you have a link to your post, I'd happily check it out, always interested to listen to a Winxologist of any level!, thank you for accosting me any way you will do!

@Danios15 , I never meant to say the idea was mine first. No ill will here. Just thought it’d be cool for you to check out. :) I also never left a comment on YouTube, but that’s ok. I’ll get a link to the blog right away.

https://winx.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Anon3610/Fairy_Forms_-_Their_True_Purpose

@Danios15 No. They're not the same person. If you spend time watching Fate (sorry if you have), you'll see that show is more likely derived from the original Winx Club than being a faithful adaptation. Though I'm a bit curious why you're looking for it from Powerlisting Wiki.

I'd like to make it clear that it's not my determination or anything. People often forgot this place is a wiki, it acts like an online encyclopedia, from fans for fans (though I'd be happy if Mr. Straffi or Viacom or Rainbow sparks an interest in affiliating with this humble place). As a wiki itself, we need solid proof for matters to be stated. The origin of the question must have been someone asking WhiteJasmineFlower about which episode/movie/comic/book that Luna is stated as a fairy as they failed to find to check (you may want to check this matter with her as I only assume it from the scene) and none of us so far has been able to point it out.

I must have been misunderstood that you were trying to imply/stand up for the content that Luna is a fairy. Still, what you pointed out about the sun was just hinted/implied or understood by fans, you (even I myself agree to this hint) but we have no solid proof to keep this valid I checked on Italian Winx wiki and they listed her as a fairy too but they pointed out no references. Funny enough that I talked about Tecna's mother in the previous reply of mine, and in the Guide to magical world book, she's stated as a fairy. I tried to find if they mentioned about Luna being a fairy or not but I found nothing. I hope I have made myself clear enough about the matter and the situation of the debate/conversation to prevent further confusion.

I do not know why the conversation is directed to "transformations" now (as I only stated that the Guide book above failed to provide better content). About season 8 Sirenix, as you said you heard, I believe you didn't watch the season or the specific episodes that feature the transformation? If so, I'd like to inform you that no explanations were given about the changes of appearance. The only explanation is how Crystal Sirenix comes up (the Sirenix power reacts to magical ice so it evolves and protects the Winx [from the cold].)

For the rest of your theory, it's clearly interesting but I'm afraid this is not the place. You may want to create your own thread/discussion and put content in. I believe many people, including Anon himself will take part in. If you're interested in discussing this directly towards me, you can just leave a message on my talk page. Though I'm not sure if I can get back to you anytime soon if it's not heavily wikia-related, I'll try to give a reply if I have time. I'll just give my thoughts about your theory. If it by any chances offends you, please consider it as my blunt thoughts (though I have already done my best in considering with words I should pour out).

• For Roxy's transformation, it's Believix. No hybrid. I do not know how people think but if I'm a creator of something, then any side-information provided by me should be the truest, absolute answer. Many official materials directly from Rainbow stated her transformation is Believix, whether there's a plothole or people can accept it or not.

• I'm not quite sure if I get what you meant about Sirenix changed after it got cursed. Just pretend that this theory is correct, and season 8's Sirenix should be the true form of Sirenix (before it was cursed), then after Bloom made her wish of removing the curse on Sirenix by the end of season 5, the Sirenix transformation we saw in early season 6 (before the Legendarium absorbs all the girls' powers hence they have to earn Bloomix) should be the designs we see in season 8, shouldn't it? But in fact, it's not.

• Yes, I agree about the part that the transformations we see on Miele, Diaspro are pretty much the same with basic form (let's just call it Winx form) of any student at Alfea. But the point is, the name could be different. Let's take a sample from real life. Everyone knows about pandan leaves (if not please search for it ;;u;;). It's called "pandan" in many languages/countries (even any Latin-root language keeps the root "pandan" then the variant name comes after), but my country, and China (sorry I do not know many) call it with different names. So at Lynphea College they can call the Winx form as Sparkly fairy form (just a random name so I'm sorry if it sounds dumb) and in Eraklyon Institude they can call it as Precious outfit... Back with the mentioned content above, it's just my theory/belief (or people often say -- headcanon) and no solid foundation so I don't have this available in any article.

• I partially agree the part "Another thing is that every Fairy Form is apparently subconsciously shaped by a mind and looks of its bearer" and "Another thing is that every Fairy Form is apparently subconsciously shaped by a mind and looks of its bearer" as seen by Bloom's Dark fairy form. Honestly I think being corrupted by dark magic is just an excuse. After being corrupted, her personalities changed as well as fairy form (but even her irises change) so clearly Dark Bloom is not happy about sky blue, sparkly fairy outfit and blue eyes that Bloom posses, hence the change in mentioned features (which please Dark Bloom).

• Sirenix and other known transformations have never been stated as "higher fairy levels", it's just stated as "powers". The only higher fairy level mentioned (again) is Believix. Actually you only need Charmix and Enchantix if you ever enroll Alfea (for the purpose of graduating), otherwise honestly as a mere fairy in the magical world, I think the obtaining basic fairy form then move on with whatever powers is enough. People often say about Bloomix being impossible to obtain as there's no Dragon's Flame spark around. True. But have they considered Sophix and Lovix? There's no Ethereal Fairies around everyday to grant you Gifts of Destiny to have them. Same with Tynix, you can't be certain if you fairy animal can grant you a bracelet containing the power. Mythix, Butterflix are actually the ones I deem possible as you can earn them, not being "granted" by someone because if they die then no one is there to grant you the power?

• I also see Sirenix as power (not a level) not only because people constantly mention it as "power" during the series, but also because being a fairy power, even witches can earn it, after being granted.

The last thing, only little related to your theory is that you mentioned witch forms. As Mr. Straffi is interested in making a spin-off about the Trix and exploring the world of witches (finally, after an eternity), I hope we can learn more about witches transformation(s) and how the witches view fairies (and if possible, fairy transformations) as so far, the Trix is the only ones transforming to basic witch form. Minus the transformation they transformed to in season 6 and the hybrid in season 7, the other transformations they earned are all granted by notorious villains, making these may not accessible to normal witches, or these are not even legal witch transformations that a witch academically is trained to earn.

Soooo there's no any source that implies that Luna is a fairy? Then I guess it's unknown, she sure is a magical being though.